Commie Corin grills a Green

The Minister for (or against) Climate Change, James Shaw was interviewed by Corin Dann on TVNZ Q&A on Sunday 3 June.

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After a bit of preamble: Quote.

Corin: Every piece of law in this country will be viewed through a climate change lens?

James: Well that is it a component of it were looking at ways of basically trying to join government up to make sure we are all rowing in the right direction ? End of quote.

Freudian slip right there, James.? Were you subconsciously channelling the National campaign advert or were you looking forward to the grand culmination of your ‘zero carbon’ stupidity when manually powered boating is all that is available to us? Quote.

James: [We have an] ambition to be a carbon neutral economy by 2050. But the bill itself it puts in place this target of getting there.

Corin: So it will have a target on Thursday?

Well it?s got a range of targets so when we say, you know, a net zero economy that is actually interpretable?so we want to make sure that people are clear about what the different, you know, versions of that might be. End of quote.

Translated: We don’t have a clue. Quote.

Corin: So does it actually say how we are going to get there?

James:? Well, ah, ah, not really, so the idea is that the bill creates an overarching kind of architecture, if you like, and then every government between now and then will continue to have arguments about particular policy responses about how to get there. The purpose of the Bill is to set the target, to create an independent climate change commission to guide us there. […]

I?do hope to work with [National] to design this piece of legislation because it does have such, kind-of, a long reach, there will be three or four or five changes of governments, you know, between now and when we want to hit that target. End of quote.

Translated: We don’t have a clue. Let’s virtue signal, stuff the economy completely and leave it for the next three, four or five governments to sort it all out.? I will have my pension and free first-class flights by then so why should I worry about the details?

And later, moving on to the Emissions Trading Scheme, Corin pointed out that the price would rise from $21 to $75 with ?pretty dramatic impacts on emitters and consumers.? Quote.

James: Well I imagine the price will rise in the ETS but it will do so gradually and over time.

Corin:? Will consumers, and I am particularly concerned with low income consumers who will bear the cost of this and the Productivity Commission notes that, and says they are the ones that will wear the costs of higher transport and higher electricity. How will they be compensated? End of quote.

James waffled on about the ?Just Transitions? work that his colleague Megan Woods was working on.? Yeah, well that was just peachy for Taranaki, wasn’t it?

So Corin cut to the chase: Quote.

Corin: Will they get money

James: Yes, absolutely!

Corin: So they will be financially compensated to offset the higher cost of transport and higher cost of electricity from your climate change policy.

James: Well first of all it?s not actually guaranteed that there will be higher prices. End of quote.

James spouted some more waffle, so Corin asked: Quote.

Corin: So give me an example of how a low income earner might be assisted with the costs, say, of their electricity bill going up?

James: Well, for example, the home insulation scheme, making sure that houses are warm and dry in the first place means that your bill will not necessarily go up because you won’t be consuming as much. End of quote.

A very quick glance at that graphic shows that insulation will affect about 11%?30% of typical household power consumption.? ?89%?70% is going to be hit by the higher electricity prices due to climate change legislation. [Thanks to Erayd for pointing out the error in the graphic]

James, you are talking nonsense.? We will all be lining up for the “Yes, absolutely”, money you promised.? Remember this day!

James continued: Quote.

If we can incentivise rooftop solar and battery ? it means that when you get those winter peaks, you?ve got enough juice that you have generated yourself that you won’t necessarily be drawing on the grid to the same extent. End of quote.

As someone who actually owns “rooftop solar” it is clear that James does not understand anything more than marketing slogans from the solar panel salespeople.? The “winter peaks” on the days when the sun does shine are well down on the summer peaks. Relying on “winter peaks” even if the poor can afford batteries, is not going to help them out. Here is some real world data off my roof.? It is a 3kW array and the winter peak on a totally sunny day is just over 1.5kW:

In the summer at 5pm the array is generating 1.5kw; in winter zero!

James continued: Quote.

If you are looking at fuel costs, you know, what can we do to incentivise the uptake of electric vehicles which are far cheaper to run per kilometre than a petrol powered car. End of quote.

How many of the low income people that currently buy cars in the under $5000 bracket are going to stump up the high up-front cash for an electric vehicle so that they can get cheaper running costs, which will not be cheaper once James and the gang have done their worst, because the power price is going to rise.

How on earth do these non-thinkers get into government?