Whaleoil transcript: Ardern on IRD, political polls & the polytech announcement

Mike Hosking.

Newstalk ZB recording starts at 10:42

Mike

Who decided in the Inland Revenue that they?d be doing political polls?

Jacinda

Um? yeah, they had a question? um?. I?. I? don?t know who made that decision. Certainly, the minister didn?t know. I was talking to him about it yesterday. He?d utterly no awareness. We all agree it?s totally inappropriate. Ah, the state services commissioner is making sure that all the government departments have that guidance. It just shouldn?t be happening, no question.

Mike

So, why would it happen? Or how did it happen?

Jacinda

Ah? oh? that?s a question that I?m sure the minister will be asking. It shouldn?t be happening. I?m not going to give a rationale for it because even if they had one, I would disagree with it.

Mike

When?s the polytech review announcement being made?

Jacinda

Um? imminently, very shortly.

Mike

What?s that mean? This week?

Jacinda

Imminent usually means ?not too far away?.

Mike

Today?

Jacinda

Ah? I?ve got statements to the house today, the opening of parliament, so that?s…that’s going to dominate today. But it?s not too far off, Mike, particularly given of course, we flagged that it?s happening, um…trying to make sure that we have the conversations with those we need to have them with before the consultation document comes out. And just to be clear, it is us coming out with some proposals that we?ll then be talking to the sector about.

Mike

The reason I ask about that is that Wintech yesterday, ah… which is the Waikato Polytech did? they…they don?t seem to know how to run a business? is the polytech problem in general, from your view, a bunch of people who don?t know how to run businesses, or is the entire model broken?

Jacinda

The model?. The model is broken. You know, any…any um… situation, where for instance, you know… when you have um… a tight labour market you see um… decreasing enrolments and ah… a vocational training sector that struggles? um? we have competition between um… ah… a number of these ah… a number of these centres when actually we need to be focused on generating the skills that New Zealand needs. We have a shortage of builders right now. We have a shortage of people in a whole range ah… of areas and yet at the same time we have um… declining enrolment. 23,000 fewer students so there is something inherently wrong with the system which is why it is going to take quite a big shake up um… to fix and at the same time we have been having to bail them out.

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