Now, about that welfare aspect to immigration…

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It?s not politically correct to talk about the disadvantages of migrants or what motivates them to come here but fortunately, Whaleoil is not bound by such niceties (aka political garbage).

Putting aside the prime minister’s inclination for us to accept a bunch of suspect illegals, the U.N. Global Compact on Migration has devised a legal path for anyone, from anywhere in the world, to come here. The Global Pact instructs countries who?ve signed up (that?s us folks) to tell propective migrants how much money they will get on welfare, how much they can expect to earn, and what sort of free housing, hospital care and education their kids will get.

Think of the Global Compact website as an online version of a glossy brochure advertising the New Zealand lifestyle as free.

The liberal left believe the best of everyone. Give someone a decent education and training and they will automatically become contributing citizens in their new home. Heck, I buy into that myself, and I’m not usually liberal or left, but this is our heritage.

America is an immigrant nation, so an article indicating a negligible effect on their welfare state from immigration is interesting. You could call this a positive effect on welfare. Quote.

International migration does seem to matter for the size of the welfare state. Although no welfare state has actually shrunk in the face of the accelerating international movement of people, its rate of growth is smaller the more open a society is to immigration.? End of quote.


Well, that’s comforting. Following the article are reader comments, and here’s one from a generous-hearted but naive reader. Quote.

I think that this is an interesting topic to think about. The post says that many believe that more immigration to the US will cause a decrease in support for welfare among existing residents because they will feel less connection to immigrants with a different culture/background.

It is difficult for me to see this being an issue because of how diverse and spread out the United States already is. I think this would be a much bigger issue in nations where the cultural and racial makeup is more uniform. I hope that Americans are well adjusted enough to not let race play so much into our feelings about policies such as welfare.
[Writers note: red herring alert.]

On the flip side, I don?t think that more immigrants would expand the welfare state either. I don?t think most immigrants come from places with more welfare than the US so I doubt that their first thoughts are that US welfare should expand. Just the opposite, it seems to me that most immigrants are usually willing to work the hardest to earn an honest living. In the end I think that the effect on welfare by immigration is probably negligible.? End of quote.

Christian KOct
18 2018 at 12:20pm

Is Christian typical of most Americans? Is he correct about what motivates migrants? That they come for jobs, not welfare. Actually, he may be correct regarding the US because it has a much less supportive welfare system than other western countries like ours. The Yanks probably learned best how to handle welfare during their history of growth through immigration.

Back in New Zealand we also think that migrants, via education, training and work, will become productive quite quickly, maybe in a couple of years or so from arrival.

We might want to think again. A shocking report on Denmark?s seven year history of immigration and welfare tells a story that no one wants to hear – and the Danes were not keen on hearing about it either.


In 1989, a private organization, “The Danish Association”, published an alternative projection as part of a special edition of the group’s periodical Danskeren (September 1989, p. 3, not available on the internet.) The article, published anonymously — revealing the degree of political correctness and self-censorship required in Denmark even then — predicted that immigration would remain relatively static, regardless of foreseeable insufficient attempts to tighten legislation. This prediction has turned out to be almost correct up to now.? End of quote.


So, what happened after this stable immigration period? How much incentive was Denmark’s welfare system to immigrants? How much strain did large numbers of them put on it and how long was it before migrants moved into paid work? Quote.

According to a 2017 report by Statistics Denmark, only about half of non-Western immigrants between the ages of 16 and 64 are employed (53% of men and 45% of women). When broken down into countries of origin, however, major differences among migrants were revealed — with the employment rate being particularly low among those hailing from Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia and Syria.

Analyzing Statistics Denmark data, the Danish Employers Confederation revealed that in 2016, 41.5% of non-Western immigrants were on welfare, while only 17.5% of ethnic Danes were supported by the same benefits. In 2017, a third of all the people provided for by Denmark’s basic social-welfare system were immigrants, which constitutes a rise of 82% in a mere seven years.

These figures show that the public expenses connected to immigration will, in the long run, bring the welfare state to an end.? End of quote.

Immigration has decimated Denmark’s welfare system to the point where it will become unsustainable. Who’d have thunk?

Given Denmark’s migrants are much better housed, fed and cared for in comparison to their poor, war torn countries of origin, should we really be surprised?

Equally horrifying are other statistics: on education – male migrants aren’t bothering; on the economy – direct costs relating to migrants are unsustainable (excluding indirect costs like law enforcement & schooling etc); and on crime. Quote.

… the crime rate among in 2017 was 35% higher among non-Western male immigrants and 145% higher among maledescendants of non-Western immigrants than in the Danish male general population. It should be noted that the figures are misleading, since third-generation descendants of immigrants are counted as Danes also in this context.

Male descendants of immigrants from Lebanon – many of whom were, according to the report, stateless Palestinians — followed by male descendants of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan, Morocco and Syria — rated the highest for crime.? End of quote.

This is definitely a road we can’t afford to take, but this government has signed us up to the UN Global Compact for Migration – meaning the UN will call the shots on our migration. Think on that over your next double-shot-trim-flat-white.