The Kiwi jihadi reveals his business plans & his values

I have read the full transcript of the interview with Mark Taylor, the Kiwi ‘Jihadi’, and the overwhelming feeling I get from his replies is that it is all about him. He has not rejected ISIS any more than a man fired from his job has rejected employment. His desire to return to New Zealand is not ideological. He has not had a come-to-Jesus moment. He doesn’t care that ISIS commit terrible atrocities. The reason he wants to return to New Zealand is not that he has realised that Western civilisation and Western laws are better than Islamic laws.

Here are some key quotes from the interview that illustrate what kind of a man Jacinda Ardern would be letting into New Zealand if he manages to get to the New Zealand embassy in Turkey. quote.

MacDiarmid: So how did a bloke from New Zealand end up where you are?[…]

Taylor: I?ve been trying to get out for like the last three years and now I decided just to give up and now the time to get out when I was forced to get out with no food, no basic facilities, bombs dropping everywhere, 500-pound bombs dropping everywhere, mortars from the Syrian forces, everything.[…] end quote.

Translation: I was fine with everything whilst ISIS was winning, but now that they are on the run, it’s not fun anymore. Quote.

Taylor: I wanted to see the situation. I wanted to see the Islamic State. […] I kind of defected to the Islamic State after the three months. […] Then I had some trouble with the Islamic State secret police. end quote.

Ooops, it’s all fun and games when you are on the side of the bad guys but not so much fun when they turn on you. quote.

[…] I became jobless and I didn?t want to work anymore. So I became more independent like buying, selling, scavenging through junk, rubbish tips, basically begging. It was actually more begging at the end. I had to go around looking for food. end quote.

There is no nice comfortable welfare net to catch you when you are an unemployed Jihadist. All of a sudden, the Infidel West has some appeal. All that compassion and all that cash. Just don’t mention the torture, the rape, the beheadings and especially the part about burning people alive. quote.

[…] MacDiarmid: So this was about the time they were taking Western journalists hostage and beheading them?
Taylor: That was before that, I came just after. That sort of thing is not really my problem. I didn?t have concern about these situations. I?m talking about myself, I?m not talking about the Islamic State. What the people did in the Islamic State is their problem. What happened there had no concern with me.
MacDiarmid: So you don?t feel like actions taken by the Islamic State you have any responsibility for?
Taylor: It?s not my responsibility. I came to see the situation and see if it was an Islamic State or not.
MacDiarmid: And you left after four years because you were hungry and there were no services?
Taylor: I was starving actually. No basic services. Most of the services were bombed out or destroyed by heavy shelling or heavy bombs. end quote.

So he joined the bad guys, fought for them and was on their payroll, but he feels zero responsibility for their actions. quote.

MacDiarmid: So if ISIS were still strong you?d still be living under them?
Taylor: Well it depends on the situation.

end quote.

Let me guess. If they were still winning and powerful and he was still on the payroll, then he would still be living for them. quote.

[…]MacDiarmid: What about policies? Were there any policies under the Islamic State that you disagreed with?

Taylor: The thing was I was kind of upset?I mean they put me in jail for one GPS location on Twitter, after I left Hama. I was on holiday. I wanted to voice my freedom of speech. But it turns out that freedom of speech was not allowed in the Islamic State.?

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Oh, my aching sides. He thought he could have freedom of speech under the Islamic State. quote.

Taylor: […] because of certain people in the media, they decided to tarnish me and put me down. I ended up being put in jail for 50 days, accused of being a spy, thanks to these people.
MacDiarmid: So you are upset about the way you have been covered in the media?
Taylor: That?s correct, yes. Quite upset.
MacDiarmid: Do you feel bad about the way the Islamic State has treated any other people, other than yourself? What about the Yazidis?
Taylor: I wasn?t involved directly in that because I was around Hama and Deir Ezzor.
MacDiarmid: I?m not saying you were involved in anything that happened to the Yazidis, but what?s your opinion of the way the Islamic State treated the Yazidis?
Taylor: I really don?t know. But I think they were kinda harsh on the situation. They could have been more easier, more fair. But I don?t know the full extent of the damage. I know there was a lot of damage that happened there.
MacDiarmid: Well I can tell you because I have been to Sinjar. I?ve seen the mass graves there, I?ve interviewed families whose women were taken into slavery, raped repeatedly, sold from one fighter to another up to 17 times.
Taylor: That?s a lot.

MacDiarmid: So you said you were like a guard for ISIS? Were they interested in your military background?
Taylor: […] most of the work I actually did in the military wasn?t that special really, mostly labouring, mostly guarding work, guarding duty and stuff.
MacDiarmid: And you made some propaganda videos.
Taylor: Yeh.

[…] MacDiarmid: One of your tweets from 2014 said I have abandoned all international laws and you only practice Islamic Sharia laws. New Zealand laws are the worst of all time. Sorry Jonhy, here to stay in IS.
Taylor: That?s correct.
MacDiarmid: So I mean you have abandoned international laws. Do you think international laws should abandon you or still apply?
Taylor: Well that happened over four years ago and my opinion before I went into prison was like that. But after prison my opinion changed.

[…] MacDiarmid: So you felt hard done by, by ISIS, they didn?t treat you right?
Taylor: That?s correct.
MacDiarmid: So it was that more so than any of the executions or anything else that sort of changed your mind about ISIS?
Taylor: See the thing is, they decide who lives and who dies. I happen to be very lucky. People were telling me when I got out ?oh, you?re still alive, you haven?t been killed.? So getting that type of response from people made me very upset. I did regret making statements on Twitter.

[…] MacDiarmid: Did you see any public executions?
Taylor: From time to time. You have a large crowd gathering around. You have? they?ve hurt someone. Either shoot him or shoot her. Put them on the back of a truck and drive off. That for example. Or people crucified. They had someone crucified with an Arabic notice on their chest.
MacDiarmid: What was your reaction to that?
Taylor: I was kind of devastated, that this could have happened to me too. But the thing is, I knew some people who were actually put away because of freedom of speech for seeing injustice in front of them.
MacDiarmid: Why would there be freedom of speech under ISIS? Where is that enshrined? That?s a Western value.
Taylor: It is. It?s not an Islamic State value.
MacDiarmid: Looking at coming home, which of your values do you think are compatible with New Zealand society?
Taylor: Business. I was looking at going home to do some business. There might be a chance of legalising marijuana. They are looking at a referendum to legalise marijuana. I was looking at a business idea where I can do a plant and food business with marijuana. That?s if it?s legal. But it might even take a year or two to get it through parliament.

[…] Taylor: If marijuana is not legalised then the other option is maybe a coffee business.
MacDiarmid: You must know that the average New Zealander is going to be pretty concerned about you coming home. You called for attacks on ANZAC Day.
Taylor: Well, I didn?t actually call for attacks on ANZAC Day, I called for attacks, but it wasn?t for specifically ANZAC Day. But you have to realise that there are even more hardened people and hardened criminals have been kicked out of Australia, their visas cancelled due to violent crimes and sent back to New Zealand and they are much more worse than me.

[…] MacDiarmid: There?s a lot of different interpretations of Islam and most practicing Muslims don?t agree with the idea of slavery, for example.
Taylor: That?s true. Well, slavery I find is not much a problem really.
MacDiarmid: You?re okay with it?
Taylor: There?s no problem. As long as you treat the slave as equal, as mentioned in Sharia law. You don?t treat them as sub-human, you treat them with respect as a human.
MacDiarmid: You must know that virtually everyone in New Zealand will have a real problem hearing that.
Taylor: […] I thought New Zealand was supposed to be a tolerant country.
MacDiarmid: I don?t know if we?re supposed to tolerate slavery.

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