Whaleoil Transcript: Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore on why ‘climate crisis’ is fake science

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

Oh, it?s unrealistic, o, it?s fake, it doesn?t address this little minute thing. And I?m like ?You try! You do it! Cause you?re not. Cause you?re not. So, until you do it ? I?m the boss! I?m the boss.?

Fox news:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sending a message to critics of the Green New Deal. But that didn?t sit well with some, including the co-founder of the environmentalist group, Greenpeace.

Patrick Moore is tweeting this:

?Pompous little twit. You don?t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion people without fossil fuels, or get food into the cities. Horses? If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.?

Patrick Moore is also the author of ?Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout? the making of a sensible environment, an environmentalist, and he joins us right now live from our nation?s capital. Patrick, good morning to you.

Patrick Moore:

Good morning, nice to be here.

Fox news:

It sounds like you don?t think her plan is a good one. What?s your major problem with it?

Patrick Moore:

Well, it?s a silly plan, that?s why I suggested she was a pompous little twit, twit meaning silly in the? in the British lexicon and pompous meaning arrogant and it?s? it?s? she really rubbed me the wrong way when she said she?s the boss because she can make up a proposal that?s completely ridiculous and no one else did. And that is? that is what?s wrong about this. In fact, the whole climate crisis as they call it, is not only fake news it?s fake science. 

There is no climate crisis. There is weather and climate all around the world and in fact carbon dioxide is the main building block of all life. That?s where the carbon comes from in carbon-based life which is all life on land and in the sea.

And not only that, a little bit of warming would not be a bad thing for myself, being a Canadian, and the people in Russia wouldn?t mind a little couple of degrees warmer either.

Fox news:

Well Patrick, you know there are so many scientists who have come out and say? and have said that climate change is real.

Patrick Moore:

Yes of course climate change is real. It?s been happening since the beginning of time. But it?s not dangerous and it?s not made by people. Climate change is a perfectly natural phenomenon and this modern warm period actually began about 300 years ago when that little ice age began to come to an end.

There is nothing to be afraid of and that?s all they?re doing, is instilling fear.

Most of the scientists who are saying it?s a crisis are on perpetual government grants. On one hand they say the science is settled and people like myself should just shut up because they know what?s right; on the other hand, they seem to keep studying it forever as if there?s something new to find out. And those two things are completely contradictory.

Carbon dioxide is actually of benefit to the world. I?m in Washington this week for a director?s meeting of the CO2 Coalition whose purpose ? and you should take a look at the CO2 Coalition online because we have some of the top scientists in the United States and Canada on board and we believe that carbon dioxide is entirely beneficial to both the environment, to agriculture and forestry and to the climate of the earth.

Fox news:

Patrick, I know you were president of Greenpeace in Canada, seven years as a director of Greenpeace International. You founded this organisation and then you left. Why… why did? why were you one of the founders and then you decided to leave?

Patrick Moore:

I was one of the founders, as doing a PhD in the late sixties, early seventies in ecology, I was radicalised by the cold war and the threat of all-out nuclear war and the emerging consciousness of the environment and we did a lot of good things. We stopped nuclear testing in Alaska, we stopped it in the South Pacific, we saved the whales and we stopped a lot of toxic waste being put into the ocean and the air.

But by the mid-eighties we had gained a lot of notoriety and we were bringing in a lot of money and we were hijacked by the extreme left who basically took Greenpeace from a science-based organisation to an organisation based on sensationalism, misinformation and fear.

Fox news:

And they are militant and so is this next generation militant about the environment ? it?s their number one issue. Here?s what Greenpeace said about you.

Greenpeace Statement:

?Moore does not represent Greenpeace. His statements have nothing to do with Greenpeace?s positions. The Green New Deal resolution has the potential to create millions of family-sustaining union jobs that protect our nation?s clean air, water and communities.?

Your reaction?

Patrick Moore:

Well the fact is you cannot do agriculture for eight billion people, produce the food for eight billion people without fossil fuels as far as we know it. We don?t have an alternative, especially for transportation which is over 90% dependent on fossil fuels. It?s one thing to have a battery powered vehicle for your family, it?s another thing to try to get 40 tonnes of food at a time into the cities. It?s? it?s just not going to happen.

Fox news:

Patrick you also said if fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for fuel for cooking and heating.

Patrick Moore:

Absolutely. The? the fact is that 85% of the world?s energy is from fossil fuels and the carbon dioxide that?s being emitted from burning it was actually taken out of the atmosphere and the oceans millions of years ago and stored in sediments. We are now releasing it back into the atmosphere where it can fertilise the life on earth.

Carbon dioxide and water are the two main constituents of all life. Carbohydrates and of course fossil fuels are hydrocarbons just missing the oxygen. But when you burn them the oxygen is recombined with the carbon to form carbon dioxide and people need to learn more about the chemistry because this is fake science and it is driving a very dangerous movement on the energy front.

Fox news:

And driving a whole political party. Patrick Moore this is called climate change push back. That?s the other definition of it. Ah, thank you so much, appreciate you joining us.